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Rhydian Lloyd-Francis's avatar

Jacob — firstly, it was a pleasure to meet you in Monmouthshire earlier this summer. Secondly, I entirely agree: the Prime Minister has no mandate — nor has he ever had one — to drag us any closer to the European Union. Last week’s poll was clearly skewed by its wording — “remain” rather than “rejoin” — and today’s results only reinforce what we already know: the British people remain firmly pro-sovereignty, and, indeed, pro-Britain.

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Alan's avatar

Heath didn't have a mandate to join in the first place. That is where it went wrong. Some of my relatives had emigrated to New Zealand and there was concern that both New Zealand and Australia would have difficulty finding new markets for their products. When it came to the UK leaving the argument was reversed and some claimed we would not be able to find new markets. Where the EU is concerned truth is a stranger.

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Bruce Goodwin's avatar

A better summation I have yet to read. The usual economy of prose 👍.

I liken those who blame our woes on Brexit to blaming murder on the weapon rather than the person wielding it.

Whilst a rocky transition might be expected, made worse by events, our parliamentarians & bureaucrats must accept they have not made use of the powers reinvested, nay, many have acted in bad faith IMO.

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Ian Watkins's avatar

I would also suggest that the Civil Service is set in a declinist mindset. Until that is changed then politicians of any stripe will struggle to turn things around.

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Alan's avatar

I doubt that any sensible reasons about decisions related to the EU can every be produced. Why did we join the EEEC in the first place and why wasn't there a public vote? Even the leave referendum was a mess of confused ideas and accusations of lies. The final vote to leave was in fact a minority of the registered electorate. It was this referendum that made me realise that the idea of majority decisions was completely meaningless.

I believe it was in relation to the USA Constitution when first drawn up, that one of the ideas it was based on was that the USA should keep out of the political affairs of other countries. I believe that is what should apply now and the EU needs to be broken up. We have a problem with border control because the EU does not control its external border. It is easy to build a wall on a land border but we cannot erect a barrier in the Channel.

However, I might have been thinking of the Atlantic Charter signed by Roosevelt and Churchill but torn up by Churchill and Truman. This is the document that should govern the relationship between countries.

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Layla Mcfadyen's avatar

I know I just say why I voted for Brexit

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polly's avatar

Sadly watching the decline of this country. We are swamped by crime and decline.

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Layla Mcfadyen's avatar

🇬🇧💙💙💙

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👏👏👏👏👏👏

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Layla Mcfadyen's avatar

I just want our country back how it was right now

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Layla Mcfadyen's avatar

I vote for Brexit and I’m glad I did because I don’t want to be told what to do by the EU specially the Germans and French no more of people from other countries telling us what to do

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